Who controls the Nganga??????

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By Mercedes on Sunday, June 10, 2001 - 01:41 pm: Edit

Recently I went for my very first Palo reading. I was told what steps I should take and what my future would be in Palo. I had many questions I wanted to ask the palero about the Palo religion. But being that it was my first time there, I didnt want to seem disrespectful or rude.

The main question I had was who exactly inhabits or rules the nganga??? The Palero told me the iron cauldron was Ogun but that elements of the dead were also contained within it. So my question to everyone is what spirit lives in the pot? Is it Ogun or the dead??? Is the nganga run 50% by Ogun and 50% by the dead??? Do both Ogun and the dead somehow work together????

By congo tata 44 1 on Monday, June 11, 2001 - 03:23 am: Edit

sala male male ,,,,
first of all i ask for licence to every tata here.. then i think i can answer that question..mercedita first ogum is a deity from people called lucumi those people are yoruba descend he ogum is the powerfull orisa that represent civilitation and one of his simbols is of course every tecnological implement as iron ,knives..and computers. ogum has nothing to do with paleros he is a yoruba god but......

By congo tata 44 1 on Monday, June 11, 2001 - 03:36 am: Edit

sala male male sala male malecunsala....
well ..but down there in cuba in our "ajiaco criollo" culture{some expretion like the yankees "meltin pot"}we cubans well... our ancestors..mixted some things with anothers...the cauldron {the "pot" like you said} is dominated by a congo spiritual force who is like this yoruban god, ogun guanile...so i hope i was clear?? there is no yoruban god inside a congo nganga... mercedita q sambia y kalunga te brinden la paz y tranqilidad..de corazon tata congo441.

By Javier Octavio on Monday, June 11, 2001 - 09:52 am: Edit

SalaMalako Mercedes,

Ogun does NOT live in any Nganga. The palero was probably attempting to compare his pot, which would be Zarabanda, to Lukumi so that you would understand what kind of energy was contained in the Nganga, and in Kimbisa and several Palo Monte ramas, alot of syncretism is in place with Santeria.

J. Octavio
Tata Siete Rayos

By tata candela entierra on Monday, June 11, 2001 - 01:17 pm: Edit

NSALA BANDA OR ZARABANDA,WHAT IS OF PALO IS OF PALO,OGGUN SON DE OCHA,GU ES DE ARARA,SAN PEDRO DE LOS CRISTIANOS,WE CAN GO ON AND ON.

THE NAME OF A TYPE OF PRENDA IS DISCRIPTIVE OF THE ENERGY OF THAT PRENDA,THE FUMBE WORKS IN THE LINE OF THE ENERGY KNOWN AS AN MPUNGU,IN OTHER WORDS YOU DO NOT HAVE ZARABANDA,BUT AN ACTION THAT IS OF ZARABANDA-OR A CHIP OFF THE OLD BLOCK.

THE FUMBE AND ZARABANDA ARE ONE YET SEPERATE ENERGIES/ENTITIES THAT SHARE A MYSTERY.THE FUMBE IS PART OF THE BODY OF WHO IS ZARABANDA,THUSLY ZARABANDA...
PORESO SE DISE FULANO BAJA "UN"ZARABANDA,OR YOU CAN SAY MENGANO "BAJA"ZARABANDA,THEY ARE BOTH RIGHT.
IKINDAMBO.................

By kimbisero on Tuesday, June 12, 2001 - 10:13 am: Edit

Sala Malecum,Ese fundamento que te dijo el palero es un fundamento de Zarabanda no de Oggun. La diferiencia es que Uno es Camino lucumi y Zarabanda es camino de palo. No te confundas con las dos religiones al empesar porque sino no aprendes bien. Estudia el palo para que no te confundan.

Que Sambia te Akutare..

By Willie on Tuesday, June 12, 2001 - 10:23 am: Edit

Speaking of the nganga, I was wondering something. When godchildren in a munanso don't get along, how is this handled spiritually? As long as they aren't throwing on each other, does the kongo of the house just sit back and watch? Or does he step in and demand peace? I've been around when Nzasi has come and reprimanded godchildren for throwing brujos on each other. But my question is, if there's only friction going on would a Mpunga react angry as well or just let it ride?

By kimbisero on Tuesday, June 12, 2001 - 11:32 am: Edit

By 7Rayos PADRE NGANGA,

In the first place lo material no se debe de mesclar con lo Espiritual. But siempre se mete lo malo y la envidia,los celos y la mala fe. El Muerto siempre advierte los ahihados antes de tomar accion.
Sala malecum

By tata candela entierra on Sunday, June 17, 2001 - 06:36 pm: Edit

kiambote willie,
a CASA MUNDO is run by a head one living and one dead,both if in harmony act as one and DICTATE norms according to REGLA,one norm that most if not all CASA MUNDOS have is that brothers and or sisters belonong to a HOUSE OR A LINE TO THAT HOUSE 'CAN NOT THROW OR WAR AT EACH OTHER'.

THIS IS A "MAJOR VIOLATION" and cause for the whole house to be involved in resolving the problem and quickly,if not the nfumbe and or mpungu will step in and place DISIPLINE as needed.

i have seen the petty bull***t go on for years before the muertos step in,and ADMINISTER REGLA,the reasons are different each time,but BE ADVISED THAY WILL ACT,THE WHEN THEY ACT IS IN THERE HANDS,and many times the battle and or war was long over with and forgotten by the living BUT NOT BY THE DEAD.
MALEMBE...........

By michael on Sunday, July 10, 2005 - 12:16 am: Edit

HOW DO YOU MAKE YOUR ngango manifest faster then usaual

By sambi1 on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 10:47 pm: Edit

why would you want it to manifest faster?

By Ginger on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 07:22 am: Edit

I'm looking for a Tata who is based in New York. Can someone help me?

By sambi1 on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 05:04 pm: Edit

depends who are you looking for?


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